How to be Omniscient
I wanted to do a little something different in this article. Rather than my writing about why something couldn’t have possibly worked in the storyline, or how ridiculous something was in the storyline, I’m swinging the door open for people to submit HOW they believe it could be plausible in the storyline. I will present an idiotic repeating aspect of the storyline, and the challenge is to share the MOST PLAUSIBLE explanation. That means, no responses like “Who cares? It’s a comic book.” (since the goal of Nolan’s vision was full realism).
In the storyline (which seems to have taken place within the estimated span of 2-4 weeks), The Joker seems to be able to get mass volumes of explosives seemingly wherever he wanted them. Literally hundreds of metal barrels filled with a liquid explosive of some kind and who knows what else (enough to blow up large buildings) in:
2 buildings (seemed like warehouses)
2 large boats
A major metropolitan hospital
- Where could he BUY such large amounts of explosives from, considering Homeland Security?
- How does he get such mass volumes of explosives into the buildings without anyone noticing? Especially the hospital? Considering he would need large trucks, dollies, drivers, and various henchmen to move it all in, and even more people and time to hook the explosives up to detonate in sync?
- How could he replenish his henchmen so easily and regularly considering that he killed so many of them? How does he generate and maintain loyalty, and how does he reward that loyalty?
- If he burned mountains of money and didn’t care about having very much, how did he pay his henchmen? Did they just work for free?
- How did he do all this and still be able to be multiple steps ahead of his opponents?
Responses have to be PLAUSIBLE, believable, and reality-based.
Filed under: Story/Plot Problems, Writing/Direction Tags: explosives, henchmen, Joker, money, The Joker
The recent attack on Mumbai (India) is a prime example of how a well-planned and well-executed multi-stage terrorist operation can bring a city to its knees.
An apparently well-guarded city is persistently shaken by the many parts of a single, multi-part act of terror and brought to a grinding standstill (curfew was declared in the affected parts of the city and schools, colleges and most offices were shut) – just like in Gotham. And despite the presence of Federal personnel in both cases, the terrorist(s) continued with further violent acts.
Hell, the Joke had it far easier as he had immense indigenous support from the mafia men and the insane specimens who he seemed to attract (he certainly wasn’t doing this alone, as some seem to be thinking) to set up and carry out the terror pieces he planned. This goes against all those who claim that it is impossible to hold a modern city to ransom.
My heart goes out to all the victims of Mumbai’s attacks and roger’s rants.
To the webmaster of this site: I think you make a good point. I hadn’t thought about the realism that Nolan wanted to bring to the franchise until I was watching TDK on DVD ilast month. When I first saw TDK, I was wowed by it. Months later…I don’t know what happened. I suppose it was the seriousness of everything going on now. The election, the economy, the stock market. I just saw the movie differently. My thing was this: early in the film it was said that the Joker had ripped off five of the Mob’s banks. My thought was the Mob would have been on alert at their other banks after the first was robbed. That would mean, once the Mob saw a bunch of guys trying to rob their banks the mobsters would have been ready to kill them. So I agree that Nolan lost focus or something. I thought Batman Begins had a more plausible storyline but TDK’s falls apart immediately at the opening sequence.
Here are my responses in order:
1. I recall he stole over 50 million dollars from a bank at the beginning.
2. He could pay people to move them in in disguise, using the money he stole.
3. People are crazy, and once again, 50 MILLION DOLLARS.
4. *Sigh* 50 million dollars.
5. He thinks things through, unlike you and your questions.
how to be omnipotent? well if this movie teaches us something aside from the stupid and pretentious hollywood philosophy is that being skinny, crazi, having scars and use make up makes a person a demigod.
look, this is a movie, i mean for example, hulk, how could that be real… ahh its not , ironman FLYING faster then 5 F-22 Raptors, ahh its a movie, and batman, ITS A MOVIE!!!! i mean the way you look at movies, there all flawed, who cares how he got them, like the above comment, he stole millions from a bank, and ive never seen an actor be scary,funny and cool at the same time,i respect your comments on the movie but the truth is its great,its the 4th highest-grossing film ever,its the best adaptation of the batman and you got to remember its a comic,just like superman,thats like me saying how come superman looks soo human like, ITS A MOVIE!!!
you watched this movie wanting it to suck mate
it is a fuckin movie!!!!
nobody apart from a stupid douche like you would state all these, “where did he get this, “how did he do this” bla bla bla.nobody cares about them apart from you soquit being a smug idiot
It’s a movie guys! Shakespeare wasn’t realistic (witches etc) but he told good stories. Lets leave it at that.
Ps TDKsucks is a faggot
You mad?
“people like a little thrill, but generally there’s not much to a roller coaster ride, though there could be i guess”
These people saying it’s just the experience and crap are all IDIOTS.
Let’s use a good quote to make my point (the quote is about Avatar):
“so people say to me that Avatar wasn’t supposed to be about the plot. It was about feeling the experience of being on Pandora. Oh, is that what all this 3D shit is going to turn movies into? Like theme park rides? Like I probably wouldn’t bitch about the plot to ‘The Star Trek Experience’, or ‘Jurassic Park: The ride’, ’cause it’s like, a ride. Like, you know, Pirates of the Caribbean! Shit, that’s been in 3D for for 40 years!”
Ok, that was a long quote, but here’s the point:
It’s a movie. When it comes to movies, of all types, you have a RIGHT to complain about plot elements in the film, because movies are PLOT DRIVEN. If the plot is simple, the complaints won’t be that many, but if the plot is supposed to be complex like TDK is, then a LOT of room for problems will ultimately lead to a justified list of complaints.
TDK IS NOT A THEME PARK RIDE. DON’T PRETEND LIKE IT IS. It isn’t “just a movie”.
You can like it or dislike it, in fact, I liked it. But the facts remain: There are FLAWS in the movie, so don’t dispel any argument brought up simply because “it’s supposed to be entertainment.”