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		<title>Why &quot;The Dark Knight&quot; Sucks&#8230;</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkknightsucks.com/2009/06/19/the-dark-knight-sucks/</link>
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		<pubDate>Sat, 20 Jun 2009 01:31:08 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[If you haven&#8217;t already figured out, this site is focused on explaining why the movie &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; (2008) sucks.  Part of the reason for putting this site together was to counter the seemingly unquestionable hype surrounding the movie.  The viral marketing campaigns, the massive buildup, the fanboys&#8230; all leading so many movie-goers to pause [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/why-so-delirious.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-76" src="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/why-so-delirious.jpg" alt="" width="180" height="118" /></a>If you haven&#8217;t already figured out, this site is focused on explaining why the movie &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; (2008) sucks.  Part of the reason for putting this site together was to counter the seemingly unquestionable hype surrounding the movie.  The viral marketing campaigns, the massive buildup, the fanboys&#8230; all leading so many movie-goers to pause critical reasoning and tout the movie as some kind of masterpiece.  Further, whenever a dissenting voice is heard to even question such blind praise, it&#8217;s as if a blasphemy has been uttered.</p>
<p>Each article posted here will point out a specific problem with the movie.  Suggestions for additional articles can be submitted to <a href="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/suggestions-for-inclusion/">the suggestions page</a>.</p>
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		<title>You&#039;ll Never See This Pair Together</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkknightsucks.com/2008/08/04/youll-never-see-this-pair-together/</link>
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		<pubDate>Mon, 04 Aug 2008 20:30:19 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tdksucks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[How awesome would it be to see Superman and Batman in the same movie together?
Well guess what? Unless the franchise is taken out of Chris Nolan&#8217;s hands, it will never happen.
You see, that&#8217;s because in the &#8220;trying to be super-real&#8221; Nolan world of Batman, everything has to be believable as being possible within reality.  Now, [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/lucy-pinder.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-586" src="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/08/lucy-pinder.jpg" alt="" width="150" height="150" /></a>How awesome would it be to see Superman and Batman in the same movie together?</p>
<p>Well guess what? Unless the franchise is taken out of Chris Nolan&#8217;s hands, it will never happen.</p>
<p>You see, that&#8217;s because in the &#8220;trying to be super-real&#8221; Nolan world of Batman, everything has to be believable as being possible within reality.  Now, if he had pulled that off as well as he did in &#8220;Batman Begins&#8221;, there would be little to complain about - but the reality is broken constantly in &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; while simultaneously trying to reinforce &#8220;this can be real&#8221;.  &#8220;This can be real&#8230; ignore the man behind the curtain&#8230;&#8221;</p>
<p>Either one has to let go of the whole &#8220;super-real comic adaptation&#8221; or make it a given that there are many fantastic things which can only exist within the world of comics &#8211; one of the greatest reasons comics have such great appeal.  You can&#8217;t ride the fence.  BB didn&#8217;t ride the fence, and it worked.  TDK rode the fence in ridiculous ways, and none of them because fantastic scenarios were presented, but because it was presented as realistic yet completely unrealistic things were utilized to move the story along.</p>
<p>Just step back and observe the tone of &#8220;Batman Begins&#8221; and compare it to &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; and given the background of how Gotham was presented in either one, how the story was played out, how the theme was established, think about which version of the Batman &#8220;reality&#8221; one could possibly see Superman showing up in.  Only in the world of &#8220;Batman Begins&#8221;, but now that possibility is gone.</p>
<p>So, if you ever hoped for such a team-up in a movie, and realize that will not be possible, you can only blame yourself for having gone to see TDK 2, 3, 4 or more times, shooting the box office for it up, and reaffirming to Warner Bros to keep Nolan on the ticket for the next one.  Pat yourself on the back.</p>
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		<title>Gordon Drowned&#8230; by Music Score</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkknightsucks.com/2008/07/23/gordon-drowned-by-music-score/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 07:35:40 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tdksucks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[At times when Lieutenant Gordon, played by Gary Oldman, was talking, he could barely be heard due to being drowned out by the music score.  Music in movies at times can be great, especially when it enhances the story-telling and helps drive an emotion home.  There are instances in TDK where the score is so overwhelming [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/gary-beethoven.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-182" src="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/gary-beethoven.jpg" alt="" width="146" height="195" /></a>At times when Lieutenant Gordon, played by Gary Oldman, was talking, he could barely be heard due to being drowned out by the music score.  Music in movies at times can be great, especially when it enhances the story-telling and helps drive an emotion home.  There are instances in TDK where the score is so overwhelming as to actually make it hard to understand what Gordon is saying.</p>
<p>Some moments in the movie, the score worked great, in others it distracted.  The disjointed execution of the music scoring was mediocre, which is easy enough to ignore when trying to enjoy a movie, but there were moments that it was simply done so wrong as to be distracting.</p>
<p>Maybe sub-titling could have helped.</p>
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		<title>Release The Hounds</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkknightsucks.com/2008/07/22/release-the-hounds/</link>
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		<pubDate>Wed, 23 Jul 2008 05:55:15 +0000</pubDate>
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		<description><![CDATA[In &#8220;Batman Begins&#8221;, Christian Bale is shown to be skillful and powerful enough to hold his own against multiple dangerous opponents, including skilled ninja-types.  Although the fight scenes could have been more clear in BB, they were still engaging and entertaining.  So how come in &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; all it takes to bring Batman down [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/burns.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-173" src="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/burns.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="141" /></a>In &#8220;Batman Begins&#8221;, Christian Bale is shown to be skillful and powerful enough to hold his own against multiple dangerous opponents, including skilled ninja-types.  Although the fight scenes could have been more clear in BB, they were still engaging and entertaining.  So how come in &#8220;The Dark Knight&#8221; all it takes to bring Batman down so that The Joker can pound on him (with, I believe, a piece of wood of all things) are a couple of rottweilers?</p>
<p>&#8220;Smithers&#8230;&#8221;</p>
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		<title>Pick One: Realistic or Idealistic?</title>
		<link>http://www.thedarkknightsucks.com/2008/07/22/pick-one-realistic-or-idealistic/</link>
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		<pubDate>Tue, 22 Jul 2008 08:24:09 +0000</pubDate>
		<dc:creator>tdksucks</dc:creator>
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		<description><![CDATA[Clearly the goal of the movie was to be realistic and therefore have storylines and themes that could be plausible in reality.  Nevermind that it&#8217;s a movie based on a comic book character and doesn&#8217;t need to qualify itself that way to be entertaining, it&#8217;s clear that&#8217;s what the intention is and if that&#8217;s the [...]]]></description>
			<content:encoded><![CDATA[<p><a href="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/next-friday.jpg"><img class="alignleft size-full wp-image-135" src="http://thedarkknightsucks.com/wp-content/uploads/2008/07/next-friday.jpg" alt="" width="140" height="140" /></a>Clearly the goal of the movie was to be realistic and therefore have storylines and themes that could be plausible in reality.  Nevermind that it&#8217;s a movie based on a comic book character and doesn&#8217;t need to qualify itself that way to be entertaining, it&#8217;s clear that&#8217;s what the intention is and if that&#8217;s the case then it will end up contradicting itself when moments of totally unrealistic idealism are shown.</p>
<p>Such is the case with the people on the 2 ferries loaded with explosives.  In reality, it would take all of 30 seconds for someone on one boat or the other to turn the key on the trigger to blow up the other boat.  The <a href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Milgram_experiment">Milgram Experiment</a> proves this.</p>
<p>Someone also mentioned: &#8220;The power gets shut off of the ferry boats and they sit in the water for an hour… yet no rescue boats come and ask what’s up. In real life a rescue boat or coast guard [or other form of patrol] would show up in 10 minutes.&#8221;</p>
<p>BTW, is Tommy &#8220;Tiny&#8221; Lister wearing the same orange jumpsuit from &#8220;Next Friday&#8221; (1999)?</p>
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