Now thats something I thinkw e can all agree on.

tdksucks, do try to understand that Americans aren’t the only ppl who post on this site. and even then, it’s not like the same ppl who voted for bush are the same ppl who liked TDK. you cant compare two totally separate groups of ppl. And its not as though bush got in on an overwhelming majority. as opposed to the movie, which a thoughroughly overwhelming majority of ppl like.

and why wouldn’t they show the kidnapping. hmmm. lemme think. presumably the same reason they dont show the joker using the toilet. i mean that has to have happened to right? so why dont they show it?
they dont have to explicitly show every little bit of detail, especially not when a reasonably intelligent movie goer can make their own inferences. we see harvey get into a car with a cop. we have already heard conversations about corrupt cops in gordons unit. so when the joker drops that particular bombshell, we can infer that obviously the cops took harvey. they dont need to show rachels kidnapping because the joker explicitly reveals that he has them both, and so that the audience and batman is surprised. and it also ensures that the audience is surprised when harvey and rahels predicament is revealed.

the reason the kidnappings commited by Harvey are shown are a) in the case of the first kidnapping it shows harvey’s willing to take the law into his own hands (important bit of character building for later events) and b) the movie never explicitly shows the kidnap of gordons family, much for the reasons harvey and rachels abductions wasnt shown.

The example I pointed was both critics AND the public.
Now if political experts and the public both voted for Bush you’d have a point – but the situation in and of itself is quite different either way.

…and Bush got voted in twice. Truly speaks wonders for “the majority”.

95% of critics disagree with you, as does a probably higher percentage of the movie-going public.

1) It was explained purely in dialogue, as if that is enough. “Hi, the audience hasn’t seen you before, but you did XYZ and I don’t like it! [bang] [bang]”

2) If such a mediocre scene like that was added taking up a whole 30-40 seconds on-screen, why not add a 10 second scene of The Joker walking out of the party they crash so people aren’t left wondering what happened after Batman crashed out a window saving Rachel.

It’s my beliefe that what made the movie crap wasn’t completely Chris Nolan (since he’s directed intelligent movies that I thought were beautifully woven together, like “The Prestige”), but possibly due to the fact it may have had to be cut from 3 or 3.5 hours down to 2.5 (the reason being that studios can make more money on sold-out showings on premier weekends if they can be shown more times on more screens). HOWEVER, there was plenty that could have been cut out that had very little value in the storline (like the fingerprint on bullet crap), so the fact they chose to take out stuff that would have helped with the more important elements of the story indicates a lot of people messed up, not just Nolan and the editors.

I guess I just lack the anal to be watching all the background characters closely for every 5 seconds on screen