Comments on: Life is Like a Box of Jokers

By: Ian Harrington

Ian Harrington — Sun, 24 May 2009 05:35:31 +0000

Ummm…first off I didn’t read any comments so I’m just going to assume I’m the first to say this. The Joker tells multiple stories in the movie regarding his origin because he has multiple origins in the comics, and the reason he was given no further background in the movie is because in the comics he was introduced with NOOOOOOOOO origin. Alan Moore and others tried to explain it away with everything turning to shit in his life ending with a chemical bath that finally made him snap, and from what we can see in TDK Nolan kept to joker having one thing make him snap but just changed it to scars instead of chemicals to give it a more real world feel. As for two face, you try listening to the woman you love dying and then being blown half to hell (couldn’t resist) and we’ll just see how you react to the world, Dent was already going crazy without joker’s help (no pain meds or skin graphs) Joker just pushed him into the fast lane. Next time you want to criticize a movie why don’t you try and do some research. And if anyone would like a good joker origin story for joker pick up the killing joke, Lovers and madmen, or mask of the phantasm (Cartoon movie), they all tell a different story but share some elements.

By: TDKSUXBALLS

TDKSUXBALLS — Wed, 24 Dec 2008 14:42:18 +0000

“we have no clue”, ain’t that the truth.

By: The Joker

The Joker — Mon, 22 Dec 2008 01:48:18 +0000

LIsten buddy don’t talk about stuff you do not know a single thing about. You are just ranting to annoy people so stop. The Joker isn’t how he is because of his scars, to be honest no one knows why he is how he is. That is the beauty of The Joker, we have no clue. As for Dent he changed because in his mind he was doing all the right things yet he was terribly punished with the death of Rachel. So please shut the fuck up.

By: go get a life

go get a life — Tue, 11 Nov 2008 02:56:11 +0000

Wow, you know a movie must be good when someone creates an entire site to bitch about it. I can’t wait for the movie to come out december 26 and see it again and again and again.

By: Azhure

Azhure — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 16:10:59 +0000

Huxley, on July 21st, 2008 at 8:31 pm Said:

“Or perhaps you need to read some Batman stories.” You might want to do that yourself. There is an entire origin storyline in “The Killing Joke” http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Joker_%28comics%29#Origin

Skimming the wikipedia doesn’t equate to reading the comics. In fact, the wikipedia entry you quoted also shows that Joker’s origins are conflicted:

“Though many have been related, a definitive backstory has never been established for the Joker in the comics, and his real name has never been confirmed.”

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tdksucks, on July 30th, 2008 at 12:32 am Said:

// theres a reason the joker said “madness is like gravity, all it needs is a little push” //

Except, madness ISN’T like that.

This was the central idea behind “The Killing Joke” which the movie drew inspiration from. In the comics, Joker tried but failed to drive Gordon insane in an attempt to prove that any reasonable person can become crazy like himself given a really bad day.

I think Nolan tried to show this with the ferries. But ultimately for Harvey Dent, he wasn’t depicted as the most mentally stable character to begin with and his fall doesn’t refute this core ideal.

It is opportunistic, but personally, I think it is a good interpretation of “The Long Halloween” which had Harvey descending to Two Face over a few months (with the physical deformation marking the official transition)

By: Jac

Jac — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 11:09:21 +0000

Ohhh it ISNT like that huh? Well I didnt know that tdksucks, so your sure, no doubt about it that it factually is not like that at all? Even if the joker is figuratively speaking?

By: tdksucks

tdksucks — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 07:32:25 +0000

// theres a reason the joker said “madness is like gravity, all it needs is a little push” //

Except, madness ISN’T like that.

By: Jac

Jac — Wed, 30 Jul 2008 04:47:23 +0000

Exactly, theres a reason the joker said “madness is like gravity, all it needs is a little push” implying that he could tell dent was on the edge and was corruptible.

By: Ed

Ed — Mon, 28 Jul 2008 05:22:15 +0000

first of all, Joker not having an origins or have many, that’s just respecting the source material, go read some Batman comics.

Dent going from Dent to Bent too quickly? I don’t know, seems to me he was on the edge already before his face got burnt, losing Rachel and his face burnt pushed him over the edge, it’s really not that quick

By: Jac

Jac — Sun, 27 Jul 2008 07:23:34 +0000

It seems like your suffering from a case of a one dimensional mind. For the Joker, hes meant to just be a madmen, and your not supposed to know why, your just supposed to know thats who he is and what is it gonna take to stop him. The whole point to him is, YOU CANT FIGURE HIM OUT. Theres no “oh well hes only like this because this happened” or anything like that. Period. Batman is used to knowing how criminals are and confidently figuring them out if need be, as is shown from his line “criminals arent complicated” and his journeys in batman begins just to understand them. But now he has his greatest threat, someone who he cant understand. A one of a kind from the bad side, just like hes a one of a kind from the good side. And the two stories he told people, were just meant to freak them out and think “this guy is crazy” because thats what he thrives off of, is making peoples minds race in his presence. And as for Dent, he had a good intention but he was never right in the whole movie. Hes witnessing Batman do all these things but knows he never kills, while at the same time you know he really has the “sometimes you need to kill” mentality from the whole abduction scene on the tracks. And he also felt strange about Gordons unit but never acted on it because he trusted Gordon who trusted them, and as a result, the love of his life was blown to bits, and now hes doing what he feels is necessary by killing all of the people he felt were responsible, but at the same time referring to his coin which he thinks is the only way to do things fair in the world after people like the joker are allowed to live while rachel was allowed to die. Then at the end he wants Gordon to feel the pain he is going through by taking the most important person in the world from him, since his whole point is he wants everything to be fair. You know, everyone has their own opinion, but the type of stuff your bringing up here is just senseless bitching, yes, the movie had faults, but you make up your own site devoted to bitching about a FICTIONAL film just because in particular you dont like it for its minor flaws?